biggers 9/27/14

[swety1]

it was nice to see some ch5gen members and grats to the winners ! some how the spectators voting got screwed up due a lady that was passing out those ballots and particapents also and something about phone in voting that i for one know have know idea about that!! also the pigs that took advantage of the free food & pop leaving many paying showing people with no lunch or drinks! that was very up setting. I saw a non car show guy with 6 cans of pop and a plate with 4 burgers & 3 hotdogs and said to him are gonna eat all that he replyed yep it free! I call him a frickin pig, that's why many didn't eat. saw others doing the same ! I ate a bag of fritos. this would should never of happened but its not my show! all in all it was nice of the member to cone out and support the USO fund raises thank to all

[mikerogs]

it was nice to see some ch5gen members and grats to the winners ! some how the spectators voting got screwed up due a lady that was passing out those ballots and particapents also and something about phone in voting that i for one know have know idea about that!! also the pigs that took advantage of the free food & pop leaving many paying showing people with no lunch or drinks! that was very up setting. I saw a non car show guy with 6 cans of pop and a plate with 4 burgers & 3 hotdogs and said to him are gonna eat all that he replyed yep it free! I call him a frickin pig, that's why many didn't eat. saw others doing the same ! I ate a bag of fritos. this would should never of happened but its not my show! all in all it was nice of the member to cone out and support the USO fund raises thank to all

When I got to the food table, there was a single burger left. I let the old fella behind me have it. (He had 2 Chevelle's there, so it's all good). I won't lie though, I was seriously disappointed. I saw a ton of people with multiple hambugers and hotdogs. I also saw an entire platter of cooked burgers walking in to the sales room, presumably for the emplyees inside. The dealership had no interest in assuring that the paying show participants had anything to eat...or drink.

[FreakyFastFreddie]

They should have charged for the food and given the money to the charity. That's what most dealers do for a show, that I've experienced. Gluttony not a problem then either.

[tansor]

nice turn out but show was very poorly ran, will not return. who ever heard of phone in voting. JOKE

[Altma]

nice turn out but show was very poorly ran, will not return. who ever heard of phone in voting. JOKE

Yeah I will also not return to this show. It was very poorly ran, and not to say that I should have won anything, but I think my count 39/42 cars went to older cars, 3/42 went to modern. I'd say that's extremely off balance, and should never end up that way. Just because you have an old car doesn't mean it's better than a modern. Just sayin.

As far as food was concerned, Yeah, it was very poorly run. I saw multiple people with 3-4 burgers, I saw a couple with 2 plates of burgers and hotdogs. That's just absurd.

[mikerogs]

When I politely asked if they were all out of food and drinks, the dealership fella just said, "yep". Nothing even approaching an apology lol. No eye contact either. This is right after I saw the giant platter of burgers go inside the store. I was so hungry by that point, I could have eaten several of my fingers. (I chose not to do this because I imagined that would make it harder to drive.)

[swety1]

like ive told old car owners in the past if I wanted a old car I would of bought one I bought a Camaro & said to them its not about old cars or new cars it about how your show your car so don't give my the highschool bull s**t im proud of all of you that agree with me, we all own great CAMAROS 2 thumbs for ch5thgen club

[Redhot12]

They should have given tickets out for the food. I saw a bunch of people that weren't in the show (I know because I saw them pull in and leave in the cars) and had there family of 5 or more in line and as previously stated, taking enough food for lunch and dinner. As for the old versus new cars, I would agree that the numbers Altma put up were correct. 2 5th gen Camaro's and a mustang. That's it. They really should have categorized the entries. There was a guy there with a pretty cool bike. Was there the whole show and should have won in that category. Whomever ran that show (Rudy K I believe) needs to completely revamp it. I also probably wouldn't go to another one there.

[Hoosierguy]

Seems like alot of complaints. I hope someone communicates this to the dealership. Maybe changes will be made.

[Lawdog]

well i never expect free food at a car show so i would not get upset about that. i got to say guys how many times have you ever got free food at a show, i never have and i have been to more shows then i can count. i am not saying that those who took advantage should not have cause they clearly should not. rudy k i dont think had anything to do with the food. tht was the dealership throwing in something for nothing so i would put it in the column don't look a gift horse in the mouth. i was not expecting any food At all. In fact the GM himself was working the grill for a long time so I will say they did care about the participants in the show. As far as the trophies or catAgories, it was participant voting and as we know many times thats nothing more then a popularity contest. i really was not even going to compete cause i got there so late and you know what happens when you get there in the last hour before registration closes everyone gets mad at you and no one votes for you regardless if u had a good excuse for being late. I did make a point to tell the guy at 8:30 before I went to my kids football game that I thought we had 7 Camaros coming from our group and I would be back at 11:30, but with participant voting, I knew what the outcome would be. that's why I try and only go to professionally judged shows nowadays with a few exceptions for charities or if I am itching to talk to my fellow C5G members. I too would expect at a Chevy dealership show the categories would be set up to make it more fair I guess.
Sorry if I upset anyone with my repsonse here.

[FreakyFastFreddie]

I have certainly participated in more shows where more awards go to the Classic Cars. Like Bill commented, this is extremely the case when it's participant vote. The dominating group of people vote for each other. Most recently, my Central Illinois Camaro group went to a charity show put on by a club made up of mostly "classic cars". We rolled in with 5 beautiful 5th gens and there were a couple of newer Vette's and a few Mustangs as well. There were less than a 100 cars and top 50 got awards with participant vote. Nothing over 1972 got anything. I lost count at the amount of times I heard 55 or 57 Chevy. The funny thing was, we had a large amount of people stop by our cars looking and throwing out compliments. A number of the club members came by and said how much they appreciated us coming to the show. Still....no love come award time. That's just the way it goes. It's happened more than I can even count. If i'm really looking for an award out of the show, I don't dare go unless they have a class that includes my year. Doesn't guarantee it will not be a popularity vote, but at least you have a chance. That's my .02 worth on it.

I mostly pay more attention to the charity than I do anything else. That's what will get me there, not the award.

[mikerogs]

I've only been to a handful of car shows and every one of those had some sort of food. I don't expect it, but if it is there, it is relatively simple to do it right. Never seen a shortage before though. This was beyond a shortage though, this was greed and gluttony with no one maintaining control, and no apologies after the fact. It was the platter of burgers walking into the dealership and then saying there were none that gets my goat. I can say with 100% certainty that if that had been Phillips Chevy, the owner would personally have gone down the street to make sure there was enough for the show participants. It was the lack of control and the smugness that rubbed me wrong. That's my 2 cents.

I should note that I waited for 30 minutes in that food line, only to see a giant platter walk past me, into the showroom for the employees immediately before I got to the table.

[swety1]

bill you and I are great belivers of Biggers chevy but the guy that screwed this show up was the guy walking with a beer all day, this is a family show where viewers can vote also there will bee now future shows at biggers, let all thank this guy and killing it for us show goers! ps your a popular guy and bill people ofter ask me are you the guy with the talking car, I reply no that's bill ! lol

[FreakyFastFreddie]

I just want to clarify something in my previous post. I LOVE classic muscle cars, especially 55-57 Chevy's, early Camaros, Impalas, Nova, Chevelles, GTO's, Firebirds, Mustangs, Challengers, and so on. I also appreciate the amont of work people put in to restoring them and making them look great. I can look at classic cars all day.

My previous post did not indicate that. That's all.

[noxqq]

I just want to clarify something in my previous post. I LOVE classic muscle cars, especially 55-57 Chevy's, early Camaros, Impalas, Nova, Chevelles, GTO's, Firebirds, Mustangs, Challengers, and so on. I also appreciate the amont of work people put in to restoring them and making them look great. I can look at classic cars all day.

My previous post did not indicate that. That's all.

Freddie...Agree with both of your posts. I attended a small show (+/- 200 cars) this weekend that was participant judged. Only two car classes - 86 & newer...85 & older. They awarded 5 trophies to the newer class and 40 to the older class. Kind of makes a statement as to who they want at the show. Doesn't it?

As you note, this is not meant as a "sour grapes" statement. There were a lot of awesome vintage, classic and street rod cars there.

Here is an example: I know that I got at least two votes from participants who did even see my cars, but knew me, because as walked by their cars (classics) they ask what numbers were mine and mark their ballots. Not right!