Sway Bars & Lowering Springs

[SERBS_SS]

Ok peoples, need your help here. I've searched and read and can't seem to find a comparison. I am wanting Sway Bars & Lowering Springs and can't seem to be able to pick between these two;

1. Eibach Pro-Plus Kit #38144.880 (Pro-Kit Springs & Anti-Roll Sway Bars)

2. Hotchkis Sport Suspension Stage 1 TVS system #80115-1

Any pros/cons or other general feedback you all can provide would be appreciated.

Thanks

SERBS..

[Frank]

I have Eibach love it! it lowered my Camaro approx 1.5" to 2.0"to look tuff handle great and not compromise ride comfort.

[SERBS_SS]

Very nice lookin ride. Definitely like the stance the eibach's gave you. Exactly the look im looking for. As far as the handling. How much better does it handle and take the turns and curves?

[HumanWiki]

I went with Pedders/PFADT -- but, the two brands you're looking at will work well.

xA coilovers, Track-II (pretty much every bushing there is), endlinks + PFADT sways, trailing arms and solid IRS cradle mounts.

When it was dialed in and on the track, it was a beast. No lag of any kind when commanding a turn. I had issues with my coilovers due to a known bad batch, but when it all worked -- man did it work.

Here's some pics of mine

[Frank]

I prefer drag racing, and never took my car road racing so I can't comment,. One other thing you have to really consider when lowering is how low your car can be before speed humps cause scraping. My car is borderline but I don't worry about it much.

[TBone]

What are your goals with the car? Do you have trailing arms and toe links yet. What other mods do you have and how much HP do you have? That would help us.

I agree with Wiki and did the same thing; Pedders Coils and Pfadt Sways. I did the BMR bushings, like every one they had and the full bushings, not the inserts.

But your goals and mine may be different so let us know.

T.

[HumanWiki]

What are your goals with the car?
T.

That's the important question. Drag, road, and street are all different.

[Bubbles]

I have KW V3 coils, GM ZL1 front sway and pfadt drag rear sway, ZL1 mounts and no bushing. I roadcourse and drag race and mine is also my summer DD. love my set up, handles very well. I chose KW because they develop Their coilovers on a track and bring them to market unlike most other companies. They also come with a lifetime warranty.

[SERBS_SS]

What are your goals with the car? What other mods do you have and how much HP do you have? That would help us.

T.

Mod's - Simple bolt-ons & Custom Tuned.
1. Halltech Yellow Jacket CAI.
2. SS Auto Chrome - XSPower Headers, Xpipe, Catback with Mufflers & Tips
3. Hurst Shifter
4. Modern Muscle Oswego IL Custom Dyno Tuned.

426 rwhp..

I will probably be doing a cam and most likely a clutch. That's probably next winter's project. Getting married on September 28th and justifying $$ for upgrades opposed to wedding stuff is a little tough, but i will make a few mod's happen this warm season.

I absolutely hate the stock rotors and pads on our cars, WAY TOO MUCH DUST for my likings. I definitely will be doing drilled & slotted rotors with Hawk Ceramic pads. Just want a decent performing pad with ULTRA-LOW DUST & IMO the rotors would set off nicely.

Now for the Sway bar & lowering Springs topic. Nothing to extreme. I would like to lower the car about 1.0-1.5 inches. Sits too high and i think the lowered stance would look great as Frank & Wiki have displayed. I am not looking to build a dragster or a formula 1 track car. but would like a setup that made the steering a bit more responsive and eliminated some of the body roll. I mean who doesn't like to take the curve on the on-ramps fast and shoot out of it onto the hwy. Or tangle with another enthusiast from red light to red light when the opportunity presents itself..

This is why I'm leaning towards the Hotchkis setup. everthing claimed is pretty much what i am looking for and it's more of a bolt-on plug and play (atleast that's how they're advertising it) and no mention of needing trailing arms and toe links. The link I attached is what I read and basically what sold me.

2010 2011 2012 2013 Camaro SS Stage 1 TVS #80115-1

Thanks for the feedback fella's.

SERBS

[SERBS_SS]

Figured i'd throw a few up and share. Needs to sit lower!

Milic's 2010 Camaro SS - YouTube

[Frank]

Nice looking Camaro, can't wait to see it lowered!

[FreakyFastFreddie]

BMR is not mentioned in your brands, but just making you aware of a brand new kit Josh has for sale here on the forum. You've probably already seen it, if not....http://www.chicago5thgen.com/5th-gen...-endlinks.html

T-Bone also has some for sale as well, I believe. Sway bars, springs and coilovers seem to be the hot items for sale this spring.

[TBone]

Serb,

It looks like you attacked your power needs correctly and did not half @ss it. It that vein do you want to "do it right the first time" with your suspension?

If you haven't already I suggest reading Justice Pete's post on C5 called "The Book of suspension", or something along those lines, because it will give you the basics.

Trailing arms and Toe links get rid of the wheel hop the manuals have as we add more HP. The other thing I suggest is riding in cars that have both springs and coilovers so you can compare their rides to see which one you like better. The nice thing about the coilovers is you can adjust them to your needs/wants for street, drag, autocross and road course if/when you do any or all of those. If you are close to me I would be happy to give you a ride in mine.

Suspension, like HP, is not something you want to skimp on because it is just, if not more, important. It is what gets the HP down to the ground and gets you going. A stock car with better suspension feels faster because it can put the power down better. If you plan on having the car for a while "do it right the first time". Take a look at the suspension area on C5 at all the folks who started on springs and then sold them when they went to coilovers later.

I do not want to sound preachy or like I am pushing you into something you are not ready for just trying to give you the best answer I can. Ultimately it is your decision and you will make the best one you can. I am just trying to give you the most information possible.

T.

[SERBS_SS]

Serb,

It looks like you attacked your power needs correctly and did not half @ss it. It that vein do you want to "do it right the first time" with your suspension?

If you haven't already I suggest reading Justice Pete's post on C5 called "The Book of suspension", or something along those lines, because it will give you the basics.

Trailing arms and Toe links get rid of the wheel hop the manuals have as we add more HP. The other thing I suggest is riding in cars that have both springs and coilovers so you can compare their rides to see which one you like better. The nice thing about the coilovers is you can adjust them to your needs/wants for street, drag, autocross and road course if/when you do any or all of those. If you are close to me I would be happy to give you a ride in mine.

Suspension, like HP, is not something you want to skimp on because it is just, if not more, important. It is what gets the HP down to the ground and gets you going. A stock car with better suspension feels faster because it can put the power down better. If you plan on having the car for a while "do it right the first time". Take a look at the suspension area on C5 at all the folks who started on springs and then sold them when they went to coilovers later.

I do not want to sound preachy or like I am pushing you into something you are not ready for just trying to give you the best answer I can. Ultimately it is your decision and you will make the best one you can. I am just trying to give you the most information possible.

T.

EXACTLY WHY I AM HERE ASKING QUESTIONS. this is all information i am looking for and that you don't get when searching products. all you get is how awesome their product is and why you should buy it. I appreciate the experience and was looking for all of yours, thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the complement on the car. i won't do anything at all before i just half @ss it just to say i've done something. i like my setup now and like the gains i've gotten. looking forward to a few more HP's with the CAM next winter and that would be it for this car. AND OFCOURSE this suspension upgrade i am looking to put together to help put the tires on the ground and keep them there so as you put it, it can make me goooo.. the hardest part is soo many options and just not knowing which to choose and not wanting to choose and regret it. so definitely going to do some reading on the suggestions you gave.

Mitch.

[FreakyFastFreddie]

Serb,

It looks like you attacked your power needs correctly and did not half @ss it. It that vein do you want to "do it right the first time" with your suspension?

If you haven't already I suggest reading Justice Pete's post on C5 called "The Book of suspension", or something along those lines, because it will give you the basics.

Trailing arms and Toe links get rid of the wheel hop the manuals have as we add more HP. The other thing I suggest is riding in cars that have both springs and coilovers so you can compare their rides to see which one you like better. The nice thing about the coilovers is you can adjust them to your needs/wants for street, drag, autocross and road course if/when you do any or all of those. If you are close to me I would be happy to give you a ride in mine.

Suspension, like HP, is not something you want to skimp on because it is just, if not more, important. It is what gets the HP down to the ground and gets you going. A stock car with better suspension feels faster because it can put the power down better. If you plan on having the car for a while "do it right the first time". Take a look at the suspension area on C5 at all the folks who started on springs and then sold them when they went to coilovers later.

I do not want to sound preachy or like I am pushing you into something you are not ready for just trying to give you the best answer I can. Ultimately it is your decision and you will make the best one you can. I am just trying to give you the most information possible.

T.

Good advice from a man with experience (cars that is).

Thanks also, T, for the suspension link. I'm going to read through this too.