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  • TSB Engine - Noise/Damage Oil Filter Application Importance

    INFORMATION

    Bulletin No.: 07-06-01-016B

    Date: July 27, 2009

    Subject: Information on Internal Engine Noise or Damage After Oil Filter Replacement

    Models:
    2010 and Prior Passenger Cars and Trucks (Including Saturn)
    2010 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
    2009 and Prior Saab 9-7X

    Supercede:
    This bulletin is being updated to add model years. Please discard Coprorate Bulletin Number 07-06-01-016A (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System).

    Important
    Engine damage that is the result of an incorrect or improperly installed engine oil filter is not a warrantable claim. The best way to avoid oil filter quality concerns is to purchase ACDelco(R) oil filters directly from GMSPO.


    Oil filter misapplication may cause abnormal engine noise or internal damage. Always utilize the most recent parts information to ensure the correct part number filter is installed when replacing oil filters. Do not rely on physical dimensions alone. Counterfeit copies of name brand parts have been discovered in some aftermarket parts systems. Always ensure the parts you install are from a trusted source. Improper oil filter installation may result in catastrophic engine damage.

    Refer to the appropriate Service Information (SI) installation instructions when replacing any oil filter and pay particular attention to procedures for proper cartridge filter element alignment. If the diagnostics in SI (Engine Mechanical) lead to the oil filter as the cause of the internal engine noise or damage, dealers should submit a field product report. Refer to Corporate Bulletin Number 02-00-89-002I (Information for Dealers on How to Submit a Field Product Report).

  • #2
    Here is the TSB for the oil filters I was telling a few of you about at Showstoppers. It strictly states to use an ACDelco oil filter.

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    • #3
      Actually, it doesn't. It simply says the best way to avoid quality issues is to use AC Delco filters. (sales pitch!) Damage due to miss-aplication or improper installation of ANY oil filter is not warrantable, INCLUDING AC Delco filters. GM CANNOT mandate a particular brand of oil filter, or any other replaceable part, under law. It's the Magnusson-Moss act. Essentially what this is warning against is using filters that are the wrong size as per specification, etc.


      on edit - I certainly hope you don't misunderstand my statement as calling you out, etc. I just wanted to clarify what the bulletin actually says. I'd hate for you or anyone else to be fooled into buying something just because you think you have to. I, myself do use the AC delco filters, but there are other manufacturers out there that make filters that are just as good quality wise, including some that are made by the same manufacturer as the AC delco filters. That being said, of course there are some that are worse quality wise, and I won't use unless there is no other choice. (hello Fram) but that's a personal preference.

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      • #4
        It also states that there have been counterfeit copies of name brand parts found on the market. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to spend an extra $1.25 every 3-5k miles to ensure my parts are not counterfeit, as I would hope the rest of you are.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JBruno88 View Post
          It also states that there have been counterfeit copies of name brand parts found on the market. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to spend an extra $1.25 every 3-5k miles to ensure my parts are not counterfeit, as I would hope the rest of you are.
          Right, there are... but I'd venture to bet that there are counterfeit AC delco filters, too.

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          • #6
            Counterfeit ACDelco filters at your dealership??? Doubtful. Especially since they order them directly from the warehouse. I don't want to argue. This is just an informative TSB directly from GM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JBruno88 View Post
              Counterfeit ACDelco filters at your dealership??? Doubtful. Especially since they order them directly from the warehouse.
              From the dealer, yes doubtful. Not all of us will bother to shop for oil filters at the dealer, though.

              I certainly applaud anybody that does, it's all a personal preference. I was just pointing out that if someone were just go buy an AC delco filter on the internet, or out of the back of somebody's van, to be careful.

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              • #8
                Agreed.

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                • #9
                  Again, I hope you don't think I was attacking ya, just lookin' out for everybody, you included, in reading the TSB.

                  So stay safe, everybody in choosing your engine's protection (oil filter, silly!)

                  Just in case anybody wondered, I prefer AC Delco, then Mobil 1, Purolator Pure 1, and Wix just about in that order Personal preference of course, but also after seeing Fram filters cut open, run away, run away... too much cardboard construction in them for my taste. (also goes for Pennzoil filters which are yellow Fram filters)

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                  • #10
                    I thought I heard something about certain types of filters having too much paper and GM saying they won't cover the warranty if you use them. I think if you have a warranty, it's probably prudent to let the dealer do the oil change, they can look for other problems covered under the warranty while it's there. I never mind them looking around as long as it's covered by warranty, lol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lawdog View Post
                      I thought I heard something about certain types of filters having too much paper and GM saying they won't cover the warranty if you use them. I think if you have a warranty, it's probably prudent to let the dealer do the oil change, they can look for other problems covered under the warranty while it's there. I never mind them looking around as long as it's covered by warranty, lol
                      Essentially, GM cannot, legally require you to use a particular brand of part to keep your warranty in tact. The Magnusson-Moss act assures this. As for who does the oil changes, so long as mileage, etc is recorded properly, you can even do it yourself, if capable. As for looking for other warranty related items, yes the dealer may be best for that.

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                      • #12
                        I was informed that fire your warranty to stay valid, an ASE certified mechanic has to do the oil changes. I could be wrong but rusts just what my dealer informed me if. Good thing my dad is ASE certified and he watches while I do all the work.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JBruno88 View Post
                          I was informed that fire your warranty to stay valid, an ASE certified mechanic has to do the oil changes. I could be wrong but rusts just what my dealer informed me if. Good thing my dad is ASE certified and he watches while I do all the work.

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                          Gee your dealer sounds... Interesting. I'll have to check the manual... Maybe our resident GM warranty tech will chime in.

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                          • #14
                            I don't see anything about that in the manual.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JBruno88 View Post
                              I was informed that fire your warranty to stay valid, an ASE certified mechanic has to do the oil changes. I could be wrong but rusts just what my dealer informed me if. Good thing my dad is ASE certified and he watches while I do all the work.

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                              That's false. No where does it say in ANY manual (owners, policy and procedures, or in GMSI) Whoever told you this hasn't a clue and really should keep quiet.
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